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What is the difference between a spouse and a slave-girl in regards to "halal" carnal relations?
Did it mean the females of Mohammad's time must be "owned" before a Muslim man could satisfy his sexual urges without worrying about punishment from Allah or the Muslim's peers?

The context is recorded in the first 7 verses of Quran, chapter 23.

Please explain?
A female slave could be used to satisfy sexual urges.

"Except before their mates or those whom their right hands possess, for they surely are not blameable"

If it was someone else's slave, then it was adultery.
Lover Slave Punishments Anyone?
My Slave girl has disobeyed me for the last time! She is driving me absolutely insane! I want to give her a punishment that she will never forget and make her learn a lesson. I am fed up and she is going to get it! Please help me by suggesting some ideas.
Figging and caning I'd say. That'll be memorable.
Make a guy dress as a girl for punishment? (girls only)?
you think it would be sexy for a girl to punish her guy by making him dress as a girl and make him her sex slave? just for around the house in privicy ?
it would be really really sexy for you to be my slave, but i dont know about the whole dress up like a girl thing. if dressing like a girl is your fortay it would be fine with me.
What wold you do to the guynappers of that little british girl in Portugal, (they have to find her) ?
Unfortunately that is just a one in a thousand case that has managed to get a public attention. How many small innocent guyren are being guynapped by the month, week, every day, mainly for guyren prostitution, slave labor and for adoption.
Let us pray that they find her and when they do i wold let the parents have the last say about guynappers future.
The punishment for those kind of individuals that are perscribed by the law are not nearly enough. Eye for eye, tooth for tooth in those cases. I say ; bind guynappers in chains in some abandon storage, girl's dad take blowtorch , mom baseball bat and have their revenge. I know I wold for my guy (altough I'm not a parent).
People who do this are no better. It's ironic that many of these same people have guyren of their own also.Unfortunately, many people in third world countries will sacrifice their own guyren by selling them into slavery.Our monetary society seems to be the biggest enabler of these crimes with it's double standards and lack of ethics. Have you ever wondered what these third world countries are feeding the fish,shrimps and lobsters? Maybe they feed them their own dead. Soylent Green.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soylent_Gre…
What are your opinions regarding the verses of Leviticus towards homosexuality?
To prove homosexuality is detestable many quote from the following:

"If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads." (Leviticus 20:13)

However I noticed from reading more verses around the quote regarding seperate things that are detestable?

"If a man sleeps with a woman who is a slave girl promised to another man but who has not been ransomed or given her freedom, there must be due punishment. Yet, they are not to be put to death, because she had not been freed." (Leviticus 19:20)

"Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip the edges off of your beard." (Leviticus 19:27)

(Levitius 19:5-8) "After a sacrifice, eaten upon the third day will make you seperated from your very people?"

Abnd the regards towards the consumation of shellfish, and lobster?
Have you read any Terry Pratchett? There is a wonderful god named Nuggin in Pratchett's pantheon. Nuggin seems to think that his job as a god is to create "abominations" which are forbidden to his worshippers.

They're all very arbitrary and consist of things like the color blue and other such innocuous things.

He reminds me very much of Leviticus.
Muslim women, how do you feel allah has made a punishment for wives but not one for husbands?
why would allah have to detail a 3 step plan to handle a misbehaving wife.. but doesnt say a single thing to a wife what to do with a misbehaving husband? like one sleeping with his slave girl when you dont want him to? (thats hadith) the answer is simply "oh divorce him" in islamic lands today woman has little power over divorce... even then allah in quran is speaking to man how to divorce the wives.(to give her money,allow her to bread feed her own baby or hire another to do it etc) it doesnt say how to divorce the husbands.
besides divorce is on BOTH sides.. I mean why isnt allah SPECIFIC on how to deal with a bad husband? but he IS specific on hitting a bad wife?
dude i rate u for asking that question
u know y u havent got any answers yet becouse
thay havent got one
lol
Does Iraq have an anciet history of cruelty to women?
*** it-1 p. 202 Assyria ***
. Certain laws dating from one period of Assyrian history, however, illustrate again the harshness so frequently characterizing the nation. Mutilation is provided as punishment for certain crimes. Thus, a slave girl was not allowed to go veiled in public, and for violating such ordinance her ears were to be cut off. The lack of legal protection available for a married woman is evidenced by one law stating: “Leaving aside the penalties relating to a married woman which are inscribed on the tablet, a man may flog his wife, pull out her hair, split and injure her ears. There is no legal guilt (involved) in it.”—Everyday Life in Babylonia and Assyria, by H. W. F. Saggs, 1965, p. 152.
You're guyding, right? Iraq has an ancient history of cruelty to women and has a very current history (READ: Right now today) of cruelty to women. They practice female mutiliation in Iraq, which is the process of having a pre-teen girl's clitoris cut off, and not always under the most sterile standards and not always with local or general anesthesia -- the rationale is that a woman will be more loyal to her husband if she doesn't enjoy sex. Also, if a woman is raped in Iraq SHE is the one who is punished for it (there are a couple of exceptions to that now that the new Iraqi government is in place, but for the most part a woman who is raped is found to be at fault -- she must have somehow "seduced" her rapist -- and is whipped or beaten). Finally, all a woman has to do is talk back to her husband or father ONE TIME and she can be put to death by stoning. This isn't just Iraq either -- the religion of Islam permits this treatment of women. And THIS is supposed to be the religion of peace?
I loved a girl & v hd sex, with mutual consent.Then when her parents said no 2 me she dumped me.Can i Sue her?
I am a 22 year old boy. I worked in a BPO. My colleague proposed to me and we were in love. I was so crazy about her. She too treated me with lot of affection & made a willing slave out of me. I totally worshipped her & went to a condition where life without her would not be possible. We also had sex.
I am a hindu & she is a muslim. I got permission from my parents for my love and we made all arrangements for our register marriage. We all knew from the beggining that Convincing her parents is tough. She said no to register marriage But, She promised to me & my parents that she will fight till her last breath to convince her parents.
But she cooked up a whole new story that I harassed her sexually and her parents came close to killing me.[But she was the one who invited me for sex. She said the same complaint to my office & i got a bad name and i was fired from my office. Then the problem was taken in Jamath. She told the same story heartlessly.
But I proved my innocence by lot of evidence. I had many evidences about her sexual aadvances like SMS etc. At last she accepted her mistake and asked sorry for them. I begged her to marry me , but she said no firmly. So, jus having a One Night stand was her purpose it seems. So our family left heartbrokenly.
She has caused a lot of damage to me, financially, emotionanally. I lost my job due to her.
Is there any way to sue her legally and give her the punishment which she deserves.
I know that if a girl has been mistreated like this, the law would punish him high & dry.
But if a girl mistreats a boy, she gets away.
If everyone are equal before the eyes of law, then she should be punished for exploiting me physically and mentally.
Please guide me in this quest.
There are thousands of boys like me out there, who are ill-treated by girls.
Please Show me a way.

Thanks for your time.
I would be grateful if you bought justice to me.

Thanks,
Rajesh
better to just move on than to seek revenge. revenge keeps you hurting more and keeps you in the pain longer than you need to be. I would speak to an attorney and see if you can sue her if you really want to if you were damaged by her lies than just seek legal advice. but suing her will only keep her in your life longer, what you need to do is move on instead and get over it.
Muslims is this stuff true? A guy saying he is a "true" Muslim e-mailed this to me! Can you believe this?
"The woman and the man guilty of illegal sexual intercourse, flog each of them with a hundred stripes. Let not pity withhold you in their case, in a punishment prescribed by Allah, if you believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a party of the believers witness their punishment." (This punishment is for unmarried persons guilty of the above crime but if married persons commit it, the punishment is to stone them to death, according to Allahs Law).
( سورة النور , An-Noor, Chapter #24, Verse #2)

Then Allah says:

(The Zaniyah and the Zani, flog each of them with a hundred stripes.) This honorable Ayah contains the ruling on the law of retaliation for the person who commits illegal sex, and details of the punishment. Such a person will either be unmarried, meaning that he has never been married, or he will be married, meaning that he has had intercourse within the bounds of a lawful marriage, and he is free, adult and of sound mind. As for the virgin who is unwedded, the prescribed punishment is one hundred stripes, as stated in this Ayah. In addition to this he is to be banished from his homeland for one year, as was recorded in the Two Sahihs from Abu Hurayrah and Zayd bin Khalid Al-Juhani in the Hadith about the two bedouins who came to the Messenger of Allah . One of them said, "O Messenger of Allah, this son of mine was employed by this man, and committed Zina with his wife. I paid a ransom with him on behalf of my son one hundred sheep and a slave-girl, but when I asked the people of knowledge, they said that my son should be given one hundred stripes and banished for a year, and that this man's wife should be stoned to death.'' The Messenger of Allah said:

(By the One in Whose Hand is my soul, I will judge between you both according to the Book of Allah. Take back the slave-girl and sheep, and your son is to be given one hundred stripes and banished for one year. O Unays -- he said to a man from the tribe of Aslam -- go to this man's wife, and if she confesses, then stone her to death.) Unays went to her and she confessed, so he stoned her to death. This indicates that if the person who is guilty of illegal sex is a virgin and unmarried, he should be banished in addition to being given one hundred stripes. But if married, meaning he has had intercourse within the bounds of lawful marriage, and he is free, adult and of sound mind, then he should be stoned to death. Imam Malik recorded that `Umar, may Allah be pleased with him, stood up and praised and glorified Allah, then he said; "O people! Allah sent Muhammad with the truth, and revealed to him the Book. One of the things that was revealed to him was the Ayah of stoning to death, which we have recited and understood. The Messenger of Allah carried out the punishment of stoning and after him we did so, but I am afraid that as time goes by, some will say that they did not find the Ayah of stoning in the Book of Allah, and they will go astray because they abandoned one of the obligations revealed by Allah. Stoning is something that is prescribed in the Book of Allah for the person -- man or woman -- who commits illegal sex, if he or she is married, if decisive evidence is produced, or if pregnancy results from that, or if they confess to it.'' It was also recorded in the Two Sahihs in the lengthy Hadith of Malik, from which we have quoted briefly only the portion that is relevant to the current discussion.

(Let not pity withhold you in their case, in a punishment prescribed by Allah,) Meaning, with a ruling prescribed by Allah. So the meaning of the Ayah is: "Do not feel too sorry for them where the laws of Allah are established.'' This does not mean that we should not naturally feel pity when carrying out the punishment. What is prohibited here is the kind of pity that may make the judge ignore the punishment altogether. This is what is not permitted for the judge. Mujahid said,

(Let not pity withhold you in their case, in a punishment prescribed by Allah,) "If the matter is taken to the ruling authority, the punishment has to be carried out and cannot be stopped.'' This was also narrated from Sa`id bin Jubayr and `Ata' bin Abi Rabah. It was recorded in a Hadith:

(Compromise with the matter of prescribed punishment mutually sorting it out among yourselves, for once a matter where the prescribed punishment is required reaches me, I am obliged to carry it out.) Allah's saying:

(if you believe in Allah and the Last Day. ) means, then do that, carry out the punishments on those who commit illegal sex, and strike them hard without causing any wound, so that he and others like him will be deterred by the terror of that. In Al-Musnad, it was recorded that one of the Companions said, "O Messenger of Allah, when I slaughter a sheep I feel pity for it.'' He said,

(You be rewarded for that.)

(And let a party of the believers witness their punishment.) This is more humiliating for the people who are guilty of illegal sex, if they are flogged in front of the people. This is because it is more effective as a deterrent and it conveys the sense of scandal and rebuke. Al-Hasan Al-Basri said,

(And let a party of the believers witness their punishment.) "Publicly.''

Source(s):

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Why did Prophet Muhammad order the stoning of a woman for adultery? Muslims, should this be applicable today?
Prophet Muhammad ordered a woman to be stoned to death for the crime of adultery, after she had admitted she had committed adultery.

Sahih Muslim
Book 017, Number 4209:
Abu Huraira and Zaid b Khalid al-Juhani reported that one of the desert tribes came to Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) and said: Messenger of Allah, I beg of you in the name of Allah that you pronounce judgment about me according to the Book of Allah. The second claimant who was wiser than him said: Well, decide amongst us according to the Book of Allah, but permit me (to say something). Thereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon ham) said: Say. He said: My son was a servant in the house of this person and he committed adultery with his wife. I was informed that my son deserved stoning to death (as punishment for this offence). I gave one hundred goats and a slave girl as ransom for this. I asked the scholars (if this could serve as an expiation for this offence). They informed me that my son deserved one hundred lathes and exile for one year. and this woman deserved stoning (as she was married). Thereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace he upon him) said: By Him in Whose Hand is my life. I will decide between you according to the Book of Allah. The slave-girl and the goats should be given back, and your son is to be punished with one hundred lashes and exile for one year. And, O Unais (b. Zuhaq al-Aslami), go to this woman in the morning, and if she makes a confession, then stone her. He (the narrator) said: He went to her in the morning and she made a confession. And Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) made pronouncement about her and she was stoned to death.

Should this still be allowed?
Why did Prophet Muhammad order the stoning of a woman for adultery??

i will tell why?
because ALLAH told us adultery and if someone did it, they should be killed because they didn't obay ALLAH's rules that's why??and it's a bad thing to do,i mean it's grouse!!!!!ALLAH said we have to get married first!!!!!!!!!!

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