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Trans-woman lesbian? Sexual orientation and gender configuration complementary of each other?
I really do not understand transwomen lesbians, especially the post op ones so I would like some answers ... and yes I do not know much about trans- gender configuration (I used to call them 'he-she thingys') As of now, I am on the lookout for published papers about this subject...

This is not for school so don't tell me to do my own homework!


Given the facts:

1. Transwomen lesbians are quasi-women who like women and were born in the gender that stops them from being gay.
2. There are more straight women in the population than all lesbians and bisexual women put together.
3. There is homophobia against lesbians and gays
4. Some people are freaked out by transexuals
5.. ...etc etc the list goes on and on...

Here are my questions!

1. They like women! They are born in a man's body, they have a penis. If they lived as a straight guy they automatically bypass the homophobia part. They have bigger chances of finding a woman since there are more straight women than gay women and bi women put together. Why are they complicating their life?

2. Why the f*** would they want to remove the penis?! Straight women could certainly benefit from it! Didn't they think of a combo like: keeping the penis and saving money plus sleeping with straight women while safe from homophobia?

3. Did they also think about job opportunities as a transwoman? Seriously, who would hire a transwoman? Think about this, if they are employed as man they get higher pay too...

My list of consequences of sex change!

1. Straight women which is majority of the population become unavailable for them! And they[transwomen lesbian] would have to resort to lesbians and bisexual women who furthermore need to be open minded about being with a transwoman!

2. Sex change turns them into women and even if they somehow managed to be couple with another woman they automatically become lesbians and ultimately resulting in them being target of homophobia! (Safety and sexual orientation compromised!).

3. Sex change means feminizing them which include, but not just limited to, cutting their penis and we all know that the cutting of penis ultimately results to the cutting of pay by 24% and all of that is if they can even get a job in the first place...

Sooo... why not:

List A

1..Keep the penis and save cash
2. Sleep with straight women (need penis for this)
3. Enjoy relationship with women without threat of homophobia
4. Get a good job as a man and earn 24% higher than the women they so want to be

Instead of... :

List B

1. Removing penis (costs money and time)
2. Sleep with lesbians or bi-women (harder to find than straight women even then they have to be open minded enough)
3. Have relationship with women while constantly watching out for homophobes
4. Blow 24% of your pay away

I am sure that pre-op t-girls weigh seriously the pros and cons of surgery... What I would want to know is... How the **** can you justify to go for list B instead of list A?!

That is mind boggling to me! Especially when I think of their trans-gender and their sexual orientation. These 2 things seem to be complementary properties; for transwomen lesbians, their sexual orientation is like a correction factor to the error in their gender configuration! If you are educated in engineering mathematics you would see the beauty of correction factors; the fact that they are in the equation fixes everything we know to be wrong in the equation!

They like women, they were born men... women are naturally androphillic and men are naturally gynophilic... men and women attract each other, so what is the ******* problem in the first place that requires them to undergo an irreversible modification on the human body?!
Coin operated boy, Diane, and Radgal are all correct.

Gender identity and sexual orientation are two completely separate issues.

I was never a man I was born with a female gender identity in a body that had male genitalia.

Because I identified as female and I am attracted to men I am straight.

Other transsexual women who are attracted to women are lesbians and always have been, remember they have always been women not men.
Is My Friend Lesbian and Into Me?
Alright, so I’m 21 and lesbian myself. I have a best friend that I’m wildly attracted to and I want to know if she could possibly be attracted to me as well and if she's a lesbian.

We've been friends for over 10 years during which time she's had 2 boyfriends (the longest relationship lasting 8 months when she was 13) and I have had none. Now, with us being besties, we spend tons of time together. She would always want to play these "What If" question games and they would usually contain questions along the lines of "What if we ****** each other? What would you do?" I never really thought about it before but that sounded a little suspect coming from a girl who claimed straight. She also likes to touch me. For example, she’s constantly slapping my butt or trying to unhook my bra or poking me, massaging me…I’m sure you get what I’m saying, and being lesbian myself, that seems like she’s right there with me.

Most recently, over the past 2 yrs or so, we’ve been sending...rather raunchy texts to each other. I've caressed her, and we cuddle when we have sleepovers. Every time we go somewhere, she never lets me pay for anything. And in July, we're renting a cabin in Oregon together for about a week, just the two of us and she keeps making small references to ******* each other, but she says it as if she’s “joking” and secretly meaning it on the inside. Now I don't have a problem with that at all. Also the cabin has one queen bed and a sleeper sofa, but she has made it clear that she wants to sleep in the same bed as me.

Now that a little background has been given, what do you think? Is she lesbian and into me? I'm dying to know and I don't want to think I’m just making this up to give myself hope.

Respond please!! Thanks ^_^
lol.. yeah sounds like she's hinting she wants to give it a shot with you

but is she normally like this? like, in the past 10 years has she always been the type of person to say 'dirty' things or whatever or has this behavior been quite recent?

you need to weight up the pros and cons if you get into a relationship (even if it's just a sexual relationship) because remember, it may jepordize your friendship. if she is your best friend then you should feel comfortable enough to bring it up somehow.... ask it subtely......... or just 'hint' it. it's always best to get an answer directly from her rather than asking people. good luck.
What should I do she really hurts?
I know this is long but please help me


My best friend was chilling with friends this summer and met this girl, who is a lesbian, and the girl fell in love with her, they became best friends and talked and stuff and she made it very clear to this girl that she didnt love her, but they were just friends. The towards the end of the summer she started dating the girls brother, they have now been dating for 7 months, the girl though, is still friends with her, and talks to her alot, the are still best friends....

but yesterday this convo went on.....
My friend is E and the other lesbian friends name is M

E: Mar Mar I miss you sooo much!!!
M: I dont ******* care
E: Whats wrong dearest?
M: nothing
E: The why you bein all bitchy?
M: Because I am okay
E: fine stop texting me I am sick of the way you treat me...
(to fill you in M often calls E in early morning hours to cry to her about her girlfriend, while when E trys to call her M wont even answer.)
M: well I'm sick of the way you and mikey act at my house.
E: what do you mean?
M: I mean how you disrespect my mom and me and think you own the place
E: Mar, I have never said anything hurtful to you or your mom and your the one tats disrespectful miss :how was your workout"
M: mom knows I'm joking, I hate how you and him are always all over each other anyways, its ******* nasty
E: we arent all over each other, you and roxy are when your not fighting at least
M: **** you
E: you never will so get that thought out of your head right now,
M: if you havent noticed I like skinny girls that are smart
E: thats fine with me



So that is there convo, and as soon as it was over Em called me crying, she has never said anyting to mar for her to do this to her, shes lost and dosnt know what to do, what should I do, what should she do?
Id tell her to just leave her alone for a bit. It sounds like she still likes her, and is jealous that she's with her brother. If she doesn't come around, she wasn't that good of a friend to begin with.
Was it worth it or not?
We had all lined up in front of the theater for about 30minutes, and then they brought us in. I had to stand right beside these two fat, horse-faced lesbians eating each others tongues like they were making a political statement or something. So, like 30minutes later, we end up shuffling in the theater and these ******* bitches start bitching about having to wait when the movie is about to start, mind you, it was 11 and it was a midnight showing. It turns out they were going to see that stupid Jim Carry movie : 23. And they were missing it. So, the ugliest of the two bitches just exclaims like no one’s there « This is the wrong ******* movie! » I just had to do what i did next. I shouted at the top of my lungs « This is SPARTA » and kicked her in the chest, causing her to fall down about 8 steps to the floor. Some people were shocked, but about 80% of the theater started to cheer, and i was forcibly thrown out by 2 officers. Charges are going to be pressed against me apparently, but it was worth it.
YES IT WAS WORTH IT AND YOU ARE AWESOME!!!! The first answer is dead wrong. You were justified in what you did and all you were doing was ending a public disturbance.YOU ROCK!
Rate my diss song to Crooked****?
Hey hey hey hey hey hey what you SAY, this is a rap or an short ESSAY~
so again i have to ACTION-REPLAY, that's why PUFF him OFF and PASS-AWAY~blaze him like CIGARETTE,
and throw him in ASH-TRAY~i will slaughter him and his murder will be MYSTERY~
no further investigation and make him HISTORY~he's HILLBILLY can't do anything SKILLFULLY~
thats why act ABNORMALLY~boi i think u understood FULLY~if not i have to go BULLY~**** u DILLYDALLY~
u said u'r a THUG who does CRIMES~but in battles uses NURSERY RHYMES~i don't have a PUSSY, but i have DICK~
when ya mum saw IT, she thought how to ADMIT~ in order to get my DICK~ which she wanted to LICK-IT~
rather ya mums pussy don't get DRY in a RAINCOAT~ mind ya language, or i'll STAB ya THROAT~
u gotcha PUSSY-SKILL~ so i'm going to DRILL my DICK in YA MUMS MILL(pussy)~after a time she said a truth~
that u were BORN~when ya DAD and MUM~******* with each other wearing a CON and DOM got cracked then u were
BORN~ in ma OPINION your sister won't get married with any boy coz she's a LESBIAN
Not bad man, throw in a decent beat and you got yourself a happenin track. I like it
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THIS CONVERSATION?
Andrea Morel
I don't understand how any one can be gay,like for a man being gay there's loads of God damn BEAUTIFUL women out there,and for the women who are lesbians there's loads of hunky sexy men out there! being a homosexual makes you "different" like before they go to have sex they have to think of aids, and then going to hell when they die.It's not normal, God did not intend that I'm sorry but its true. Like if you agree!
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Antonio 'Deity' Thompson
I swear when a man looks at a woman's breast his meant to think of reproducing since breast = to feed babies... and a vagina = for the semen to go in, and mix with the egg to make a baby... and a penis releases sperm that makes the baby.... what's the point of two men having sex then, or two women!
The only reason we have sex is to reproduce so the human race continues,all other sex is pointless...
Like I swear in the animal world the male animals chase the female animals... isn't that weird a man chasing after another man...
men are too big to be with each other its weird, what do they do in bed, beat each other up?

I mean damn, I could never ever imagine doing such thing! its an abomanation. I was born with a vagina which means I was made to be with a man..
Two penises don't go, two vaginas don't go!
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Andrea Morel A woman has SO much more to offer a man, than a man has to offer a man. And a man has so much more to offer a woman than a woman has to offer a woman. Man this homosexual **** confuses me. I'm sorry if I sound mean but it is what it is.
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Jerry Horton I agree
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Hugo Ladiesman Lets get three islands, put on 1 island 1000 gay men.
on the other island 1000 lesbian women. and one the last island 500 straight men, 500 straight women.
Gods punishment to gays is AIDS. That's how you no God hates gays, if he liked them he wouldn't have made them get aids.
I guess nature has its flaws and in this case its gay people.
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ßlãçk Héàrt Andrea u r absolutely correct..
There's no point of one being homo...
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Helios Armstrong yeah being gay is stupid, women look so ******* sexy and have everything we want and need why would you go for another dirty sweaty dude? Every one laughs at guys who dress like girls and tries to act like them so there is no upside to being gay
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Omar Lopez I love your status and I love the way you think. Gays go to hell. I hate them mother *******. If I get hit on by girls as much gays hit on me, I can get laid every min
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Helios Armstrong Plus you dont have to know how god judges gay to realize its simple fact gays don't reproduce male and females reproduce. Simple as that if every one was gay there be no every one, so common sense kinda kicks in there
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Andrea Morel ‎@ Štef JôřĐäń : this is just my option, it's how I feel. I respect your option though! I'm not hating homosexuals! I don't hate homosexuals, I hate homosexuality.
Yesterday at 7:08pm · Like

Hugo Ladiesman Its wrong, its sick, its an abomination, its unnatural. God made us higher than animals and they don't even do it. I categorize homosexuals in the same group as rapists and paedophiles
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Hugo Ladiesman They think they were born this way when they were not. They redefine their sex by effiminate
being for themselves,they loose
chemistry of being masculine,
mentally and physiologically they
get crazy to show their feminity
and behave as a woman
and vise versa for lesbians. they practice it so much they think its normal. and when you tell them the truth about how its wrong, sex is to reproduce, God made Adam and steve, they attack you with "I was born this way" if that's the case then how comes in Uganda (where they don't practice this obscene act) there 95% straight, because they don't practice it, homosexuality has taken over america look at san fransisco and west hollywood aka west homowood, and manhattan, its sick, ******* sick sick sick sick sick. they are killing this country slowly, they wish to have the same rights as straight people and it will never happen! i am sick of putting my tv on, and something about homosexuals come on, its everywhere!
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Sex between two men is fruitless and "pointless" yes however there are still men who are attracted to other men. There is literally nothing we can do to change the fact they are attracted to each other.
Their attraction does not affect us in any direct way so why should we care? What gives anyone the right to stop them?
How can I convince my friend's mom to let us hang out?
One of my closest friends has a ******* cow for a mother. She's always been controlling and narrow minded and just awful but now since she found out that both me and my friend are lesbians she got 10x worse. She takes her phone away just to read her texts, go one her facebook and never lets her do anything with her female friends. Especially me. Even though we already have gone so far out of our way to try and make it "safe" to hang out. We make sure a parent is home, and have another friend there and we dont do sleepovers anymore but anytime she even attempts to ask her mom if we can hang out, her mom gets extremely angry and yells about how my friend is a selfish indulgent guy and how shes shocked that my friend would even ask something like that. Then when she tries to ask why, her mom goes off about how she doesn't need to answer to her. She thinks shes perfectly within her rights to destroy her daughters social life. The thing is, contrary to her mom's belief JUST because were lesbians, doesn't mean were going to have sex with each other every single second were alone. We so not even into each other at all. But this whole situation feels so hopeless because her mom won't listen to us when we tell her that were only best friends. How can anyone try to convince her mom to at least let us see each other?
its her house, but ya cud get a large group of friends together and strongly suggest that she calm down a bit
Falling for a girl with a girlfriend...but is it reciprocated anyway?
We're both lesbians, she lives with her GF. We met once at a party of mutual friends but she lives in another state...we exchanged emails/FB and so kept in touch. LOL don't laugh but recently we started playing Everquest 2 (an onlne game) together, she contacted me 1st cause she knew I played. This was 4 months ago. Since then we play together every night for hours and often voice chat on skype while we play. We do everything in-game together, usually just us, we're kinda exlusive even though we both have other friends that play. We went from acquaintences to REALLY fast friends and we have a ton in common. Sometimes she says she thinks we're the same person and we complete each other's sentences constantly... but she is kinda a soft butch and I am more of a femme, but i guess looks aren't everything.

Anyway obviously I've totally fallen for her, and I have no idea where she stands. Sometimes she flirts and we do tease each other constantly. We've also confided in each other a lot of stuff, and she's going through a really hard time now with some family stuff. She constantly urges me to drive down and visit her but my work schedule doesn't allow that right now. One night she got very flirtatious and i kinda backed off (i got cold feet, LAME I know). Since then it hasn't really happened again, least not that blatantly. I also I have tried being more flirtatious in-game and she hasn't responded. Her GF watches her play though sometimes so maybe that's it...I noticed she acts a little warmer after she goes to bed. :/

But in the last few weeks I've sensed this weird tension between us. Sometimes she'll be really nice and other times moody and almost snappish. I don't know, I have just fallen super-hard for her and have no idea how to approach this. Is she into me? Is she acting this way cause she senses I like her? I am usually good at hiding my feelings like this but ugh... I don't want to mess up her relationship either or be a home-wrecker, but I feel we really could have something amazing and special. I am afraid of ******* it all up.

help!
First thing I suggest you do is relax. Stressing doesn't help any situation. Second, if she has a girlfriend, don't put yourself in the situation to where you'd be alone with her. It's unfair to her, her gf, and you. If you want to know if she likes you, ask. Learn her guidelines and do not cross them. If she decides to be with you, kudos. If not, separate yourself from her entirely. Give yourself time to get over her, then perhaps you can begin to spend time together again.

Best wishes.

- Friendly Les
My sister found out. She is being indirectly hateful towards me?
I was messaging my girlfriend on msn. It wasn't anything explicit, but we were telling each other how much we love each other.I love her so much, and I swear, even though I never believed in this stuff, she is my soulmate. I love her.
Well, my sister is perhaps the only homophobic person in my immediate family. I mean, sometimes the other people join in when she voices her views and none of the people that disagree argue with her. Only me.
She is 17, I am 16.
I am on heavy medication, and so I fell asleep with my laptop open next to me. My sister saw me, came into my room and evidently looked at the conversation. She told me she did.
Once I woke up she said things that made that clear, and then she started talking about lesbians and them being disgusting. She started saying "I'm glad none of us are gay, and that we never will be gay. Mum and dad would be so disappointed." I said "Why would they be disappointed?" and she spoke about them missing out on guys etc and I just laughed. Then she moved on to bullying. She said that gay people are just asking to be bullied. That it's deserved and disgusting. I mentioned that I know a gay girl, and no one cares. She just looked annoyed and kept saying that It's disgusting.
I went back on my laptop infront of her, and she asked "You're still talking to her? Why don't you just get ******* married?". I'm like "Soph, It's 3am, she's not online."
Then she had to leave. She will be home soon.
This is a very abridged version, by the way.
Did I handle it well? What do I say? I don't want to come out to everyone right now.
When looking at what she said, you seemed to handle it pretty well. You kept your temper, she didn't. And she too, was the one to initiate the guilt-trips.
I am in love with my straight best friend?
Hi all:)
I am really really sorry for my english but i am form greece.Also i am sorry about the extended letter....
I am not going ask a question but i want your opinion about something.So here we go...
I know a girl for 2 years almost.I can say that now she is my bff.But my feelings for her have developed the last 5 months,not in a....friendly way.The last 5 months we have come very close to each other and i ithink i have fallen with her.WRONG.I am sure that i am in love with her.We are very closed and we act like a couple(unfortunately only for fun).I had some bfs so did she.As i said before we act like a couple(kisses on the cheek,hugs,hands on the waist,flirting etc.)We make fun and pretend to be lesbians to our friends
(One day a frined of us asked:<<Hey you are always together.I think something is goin' on here^^>>And she hugged me,kissed me and told him:<<I love her>>but she told him in a jokingly way)
Someday i told her while we were talking on the phone about a show that was including a lesbian couple and she was like<<OMG.How they can show this thing on TV>>and she changed the subject.
However I have noticed she is a bit more close to me when we are alone(Another day she called me and told me if i wanna go out with her.I said i couldnt because i was returning from my english lesson but eventually we went for a walk to the neighbourhood.We held hands all the way just as always and she said me<<I like that we are holding hands>> and I said<<I like it too>>she smiled and kissed me with a very passionate kiss on the cheek.And she didnt doing it for joke)I thought she may love me back and i was overwhelmed with happiness about a week.
But one day that she had finished school 2 hours earlier than me and she was suppose to go home she waited for me.when i saw her as i wasnt expecting her,she smiled me hugged me,kissed me and while he was kissing me she was whispering something<<Omg.he is SO georgeous etc.>>(she was talking about a crush she have but i though he had forgot him...)And i was like<<Yeah I know...>>.
Damn she is doing it every time i am ready to confess her my love to her.First he seems to love me as i love her and i am ready to tell her but then she ruin everything by say something it discourages me(like talking about her crush etc).
I ******* LOVE HER.I dont know what to do.Shall i tell her and risk to lose her from a friend?Or i just keep my mouth closed and still be bffs?And IF i tell her and things work out well i am so afraid of being a whole life with her...and i tell this because if things work out well i dont want to lose her ever in my life...at least i want her as my bff...
So guys what i must do?:(
thank you for reading that:)
This whole thing sounded really cute. I don't know if you should tell her now but maybe give her hints that you like her. Like kiss her more, hold her hand more, be more touchy and affectionate. Then maybe she'll ask you what going on between the both of you. It sounds like she likes you too. If she doesn't catch the hints then tell her how you feel.

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